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	<title>Comments on: My Take on Zeitgeist and GAJ not being in GNOME (A Personal Rant)</title>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
		<link>http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/06/my-take-on-zeitgeist-and-gaj-not-being-in-gnome-a-personal-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-8762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 05:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just integrate this piece of shit with Nautilus already. thx</description>
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		<title>By: GNOME Wars! Red Hat Vs Ubuntu &#171; Ubuntu-Moza74</title>
		<link>http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/06/my-take-on-zeitgeist-and-gaj-not-being-in-gnome-a-personal-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-8736</link>
		<dc:creator>GNOME Wars! Red Hat Vs Ubuntu &#171; Ubuntu-Moza74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is very picky when it comes to accepting commits upstream into the core GNOME modules, for example, Seif Lotfy&#8217;s work on Zeitgeist was denied. It&#8217;s also definitely worth reading the points of view from Ubuntu legend, Jono Bacon, who is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is very picky when it comes to accepting commits upstream into the core GNOME modules, for example, Seif Lotfy&#8217;s work on Zeitgeist was denied. It&#8217;s also definitely worth reading the points of view from Ubuntu legend, Jono Bacon, who is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ionut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ionut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really happy that it wasn&#039;t accepted since the idea behind it is plain stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really happy that it wasn&#8217;t accepted since the idea behind it is plain stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/06/my-take-on-zeitgeist-and-gaj-not-being-in-gnome-a-personal-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-8096</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents:
Shell is terrible, ugly, in early stage of development, based on hypothesis not confirmed by experiments yet and still the main thing in GNOME 3. Zeitgeist is working thing, based on very powerful idea and as result making a lot of buzz and getting a lot of attention. Many people seeing it (obviously wrong) as the main advantage of GNOME 3. But that being said, GAJ is really not needed as stand-alone application, because its main purpose at the end is still to locate some files (among other things). But thinking in terms of user scenarios what do we do when we find the files we want? We want to manipulate them somehow. Open them in some application, send them, copy them, rename them, delete them, move them, apply batch procedure... And therefore we have a file manager. So having both Nautilus and GAJ as different applications basically means that we have to use GAJ to find some files and then somehow transfer/select this group of files in nautilus (i have no idea how to do that if there are in different folders/devices) and do whatever we want to do with them. This makes no sense and is the reason for the &quot;no need for standalone application&quot; argument for GAJ, not Zeitgeist. As I(and some other users) see it, GAJ functionality should be just another view mode for nautilus. 
Keep up the excellent work, Seif (and team), I am waiting for the geo-location part of zeitgeist as well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents:<br />
Shell is terrible, ugly, in early stage of development, based on hypothesis not confirmed by experiments yet and still the main thing in GNOME 3. Zeitgeist is working thing, based on very powerful idea and as result making a lot of buzz and getting a lot of attention. Many people seeing it (obviously wrong) as the main advantage of GNOME 3. But that being said, GAJ is really not needed as stand-alone application, because its main purpose at the end is still to locate some files (among other things). But thinking in terms of user scenarios what do we do when we find the files we want? We want to manipulate them somehow. Open them in some application, send them, copy them, rename them, delete them, move them, apply batch procedure&#8230; And therefore we have a file manager. So having both Nautilus and GAJ as different applications basically means that we have to use GAJ to find some files and then somehow transfer/select this group of files in nautilus (i have no idea how to do that if there are in different folders/devices) and do whatever we want to do with them. This makes no sense and is the reason for the &#8220;no need for standalone application&#8221; argument for GAJ, not Zeitgeist. As I(and some other users) see it, GAJ functionality should be just another view mode for nautilus.<br />
Keep up the excellent work, Seif (and team), I am waiting for the geo-location part of zeitgeist as well <img src='http://seilo.geekyogre.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Monica S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m very interested in Linux but Im a Super Newbie and I&#039;m having trouble deciding on the right distribution for me (Havent you heard this a million times?) anyway here is my problem, I need a distribution that can switch between reading and writing in English and Japanese (Japanese Language Support) with out restarting the operating system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m very interested in Linux but Im a Super Newbie and I&#8217;m having trouble deciding on the right distribution for me (Havent you heard this a million times?) anyway here is my problem, I need a distribution that can switch between reading and writing in English and Japanese (Japanese Language Support) with out restarting the operating system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yelp has a tracker back-end.  Yelp will be much faster for Gnome 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yelp has a tracker back-end.  Yelp will be much faster for Gnome 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Linux Hater</title>
		<link>http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/06/my-take-on-zeitgeist-and-gaj-not-being-in-gnome-a-personal-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-8009</link>
		<dc:creator>Linux Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I&#039;d better clarify: I&#039;m not the hater himself, just one of the people who frequent the flamefest on his blog&#039;s comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I&#8217;d better clarify: I&#8217;m not the hater himself, just one of the people who frequent the flamefest on his blog&#8217;s comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Linux Hater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linux Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for giving everyone on the Linux Haters Blog a good laugh at the pathetic state of politics in the GNOMECentralCommunistCommittee™

Every post like this finds our position vindicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for giving everyone on the Linux Haters Blog a good laugh at the pathetic state of politics in the GNOMECentralCommunistCommittee™</p>
<p>Every post like this finds our position vindicated.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post is interesting, but a little cryptic for those not familiar to three-letter-acronyms starting by &#039;G&#039;...

You might have reached a somehow larger audience by replacing GAJ by Gnome Activity Journal (which I myself had too search/guess to decrypt).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is interesting, but a little cryptic for those not familiar to three-letter-acronyms starting by &#8216;G&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>You might have reached a somehow larger audience by replacing GAJ by Gnome Activity Journal (which I myself had too search/guess to decrypt).</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Zeitgeist was one of the &quot;blessed&quot; technologies in GNOME 3? Not GAJ necessarily, I see that mostly as a testbed and demonstration of Zeitgeist&#039;s strengths, a standalone application which provides a more powerful or involved way of working with these new technologies.

This is a classic chicken-and-egg problem. GNOME wants to see Zeitgeist used in more applications in order to accept it as a dependancy, but Zeitgeist needs GNOME to make a commitment in order to attract developers. As Seif noted, there have been some small steps in making Zeitgeist work with applications like Nautilus or Rhythmbox. But ther won&#039;t be any serious work implementing these technologies and/or replacing old ones (GtkRecent) if Zeitgeist is not considered as a dependancy, at least for some future release after 3.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Zeitgeist was one of the &#8220;blessed&#8221; technologies in GNOME 3? Not GAJ necessarily, I see that mostly as a testbed and demonstration of Zeitgeist&#8217;s strengths, a standalone application which provides a more powerful or involved way of working with these new technologies.</p>
<p>This is a classic chicken-and-egg problem. GNOME wants to see Zeitgeist used in more applications in order to accept it as a dependancy, but Zeitgeist needs GNOME to make a commitment in order to attract developers. As Seif noted, there have been some small steps in making Zeitgeist work with applications like Nautilus or Rhythmbox. But ther won&#8217;t be any serious work implementing these technologies and/or replacing old ones (GtkRecent) if Zeitgeist is not considered as a dependancy, at least for some future release after 3.0.</p>
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