Hylke Bons mocked up
Together we did…
While its not done yet I think we r getting there…. This is the current real app btw. Federico is hacking the calendar… Then we are off for a nice release…
What do you think?
*UPDATE: Now it (halfway) adapts to the theme and I tried to manipulate the expander buttons. You can get the code from lp:gnome-activity-journal
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Beautiful! I think this looks great.
I would suggest that “Edited or Read Development Files” is way too wordy. It sounds like someone trying to talk like a standards document. “Edited or Read Code”?
It’d also be neat to color-code these activities and color the little height-chart in proportion to what you were doing. So if hacking code is green and using gimp is blue, you can look at your height-chart of your week and see at a glance roughly what you were up to.
@Nat Friedman
Note taken and will be fixed by tomorrow!
We are waiting for federico to finish the bottom calendar first!
But thanks for the tips!
Especially beautiful mockup. Ah, it’ll be so nice when we can have proper rounded corners and overlapping widgets. Maybe it could be matched 1-to-1 then?
Anyway, super impressed. That is a far more natural and human approach. I especially love the expanders for related files.
@Dylan McCall
I am trying my best to match it 1-to-1 ! Hylke rocked with the Mockup
Wow, this is really starting to come together now, looking great!
I think you are making a real good job here, my congratulations. Btw, I though Zeitgeist was going to be ported to C or Vala. Having various VMs (Python and Javascript at least) load by default on the future Gnome 3.0 doesn’t seem a very good plan to me.
the the mockup is nice, but in your implementation you have too much spacing between the file icon and file name. The bar graph below would be great it looks similar to thunderbird 3s search feature.
Gnome’s Hamster has some nice bar graph implementations
http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/
Maybe you can look into some some code from their
What will happen if the entries do not fit vertically? A scoll bar?
I’ve looked at your previous post about Journal and now it look really better. I like blue neat design, but giving more colors would make more fantastic( as @Nat suggested).
Are you going to show the Web history in journal. I think it is more enjoyable for end users that are not familiar with coding.
Great job
@cgable
yes
What about terminal applications? I mean lots of people using GNOME also uses vim maybe more than gedit or any other app? I guess GNOME Activity Journal is an extended version of Recently Used menu application of GNOME.
@Maciej Rumianowski Yes we have a firefox plugin that sends the engine the firefox activities
The journal here refelcts what the engine does. Sadyl I use chrome. So i need a provider for that.
@Alper KANAT If you can write a provider for vim. As in a vim extension that sends zeitgeist info over dbus. It will be listed.
Ha that looks really similar to the mockup I did on a sheet of paper almost a year ago lol. Ok except the bars down on the bottom and I had buttons on the top but the layout is similar
WOOOWW! That’s outstanding! Really good to hear you’ll try to match it one on one, because the arrows and pluses [+] in the mock-up look way nicer so don’t forget about those :3
(I also like the idea of keeping it monochromatic, but heh)
Keep up the great job, guys! *hug*
Really good looking!
What I find the most outstanding about this is that somebody is willing to produce desktop applications for GNOME 3.0 that don’t look as if they’re made for the desktop. The design is definitely far closer to web-applications than most applications.
I’m really glad to see this shift. The web might not look unified like the desktop, but it has a ton of good style ideas which should be adapted to the desktop-programs where applicable to make ‘em more attractive again.
To me, compared to the web, most desktop applications look as if they’re a few years old. Originality and design seem to have been stagnant on the desktop for far too long. So a huge thank you for going this step just like the Shell will be a huge design update, too. And even more important: Both the Shell and this seem to have a great compromise between design and usability, using design to make for better usability.
However much you change the theme, you’re still just showing people a lot of lists. And users don’t like looking through lists. This project *so* needs a good infographics designer to come in and rescue it soon :/
(Users also still find tree controls/expanders one of the hardest controls to understand and use, btw, so throwing a pile of them into the basic interface doesn’t bode well either.)
@Cally
How else would you do it? I would appreciate directions for that matter
Love the where this is going, can’t wait to use it. Will it be able to track what sites you are browsing to categorize them?
A-W-S-O-M-E
It looks sooooo simple and beautiful
Seif and Hylke you ROCK!
After that spontaneous feeling of excitement ill post someting more… interesting XD
That looks great, kudos to the team!
I am not convinced despite it is pretty.
- first, I had like coherent designs between softwares. Whatever your point of view, I dislike the fact that interface is not unified (e.g. hamster use timeline at top, a toolbar, and so on… Other examples are possible).
- second, your previous interface allows to look immediately at the different files used. Now interface is wordy and it is harder to discriminate a file.
- third, empty lines are displayed (morning, afternoon, evening). Three level of gray background (from lighter to darker) could materialize the day (you can eventually add a small icon (morning sun, sun, night)
- fourth, I find useless to categorize files accordingly (morning…), . Users have different ways of life and working hours. Using only color background and the possibility to define own periods of the day is probably more relevant.
I love this.
One suggestion: for the benefit of sporadic computer users, you should collapse days with no activity, so that you show the last few computing sessions rather than just the last few days (which may all have no activity).
Another suggestion: some users will tend to find certain activities useful to remember, and others irrelevant. For instance, I’d love some help finding what I edited on a particular day, but I generally don’t much care what music I played; if I want music, I load up my music player and play whatever. I don’t mean that Zeitgeist shouldn’t remember that information, but I’d propose supporting a set of filters, like “Don’t show this activity by default”. That would result in a single item at the end of any given day saying something like “[+] N activities ignored; [link]edit ignore preferences[/link]“. Clicking the [+] would show all the ignored activities. Clicking “edit ignore preferences” would bring up a list of the things you’ve hidden by default.
Ideally, the ignore preferences would provide a fairly powerful set of filters, but remain simple for the novice user. In the simplest case, the user might right-click on a music file and choose “Ignore ‘Played Audio’ activities”, or right-click on a conversation and choose “Ignore conversations with ‘RamblingDude’”. On the other hand, a technical user might want to set something like “Ignore website visits to http://mycompany.com/annoyingpoups?uniquesessionid=.*“.
For an example of highly powerful filters made fairly friendly, check out Adblock Plus and its “add filter” dialog.
@Vitaly Babiy
Yes it will. The Engine supports it but the UI not yet. We are finishing the UI logic and design then we will head to the rest.
I like very much the layout, but there is something wrong with the use of the theme colors, look what happened on my system:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/212852/Schermata-Journal.png
You should use for the columns the same color nautilus uses for background (“input background color”, i think)
Hi. I’m not able to run it. I’ve tried the method from your previews post. This is my output: http://pastebin.ca/1739970 Any advice?
what about a clean history tool?
I may not want anyone to see everything I do.. A right-click -> delete entry/entries would be great!
BTW, I like this GUI a lot, but I find it too minimalist: no options at all! All I can do is viewing list, but there’s no search tool, no filters, no rules (for example -> make all documents entries green), no menus at all.
Also, would it be possible in future an integration with software centers? This activity journal could be great also as a restore tool
ps: all my critics are meant to be constructive critics
I know that the project is still quite young
michau: I think it’s because the zeitgeist daemon wasn’t started. It’s on my list of things to fix.
Don’t really like the update where the entire treeview is white.. Prefer your original concept and attempt at producing it. +1 for expanders by the way. How do you propose to make the treeviews curved? Does client side windows allow for that? I am a bit confused as to whether client side windows contains stuff from the subwindow-less branch.
that is gorgeous. the mock-up especially.
that kind of flat theme with a taller top window bar should seriously be considered for some kind of GNOME 3 standard.
or at least, as in the mockup, and i’ll actually see if i can push this further, isn’t it a good idea to move the window title to the left of the window, and removing the window icon, at least by default?
some more thoughts: in the menu, I may want to choose which info I want the journal to store. Ah, is it going to support plugins?
Also, for ME it’d be natural that the highlighted list is the list which I’m viewing, not the “Today” list <- other ppl may find it natural the way you did it
Feedback: Western people scan interfaces from the top-left corner to the bottom-right corner. See: http://www.surl.org/usabilitynews/102/portal_column.asp
Therefore, this interface is backwards. If the user has their language set to a left-to-right language, the columns should be ordered: Today, Yesterday, Wednesday, …
If the user has a right-to-left language set, the ordering in the screenshot would be correct
This will be an important detail that will make or break this software for many people.
Is Gnome Activity Journal meant to replace Nautilus in GNOME 3? I commend any attempt at fixing the mess that is files and folders, but this lacks any way to arbitrarily organise files. Will a tagging system be added in the future?
@Liam McDermott
yes, we read from left to right, but it’s always been on any software (or calendar, schoolbook, whatever) that the more you go to the left, the more you go back in the time.
When you study history, you begin from the beginning of the times, and, reading always from left-to-right, you end-up studying contemporary history.
The “today” is at the end, on the right.
If you watch a calendar, the first day is on the left, then you go always to the right if you want to view a day that’s after.
For example, let’s say today is the 7th (hehe, I realized it’s really the 7th), and you’ve got your calendar in front of you: if you want to see what you did on the 1st, you watch on the left, not on the right, while the 7th, the “Today”, is on its right.
Let’s say we put the “today” list on the left, like you say: now you’d need to go on the right to see what happened on the 1st -which is not “natural” for most of the people.
We’re used to have past days on the left, new days on the right, so I’d leave the Journal as it is now
Hey, nice looking UI there!
You know what would be even more sexy?
When the days would slide left and right when user presses the arrows or the calendar below.
Right now the UI just “jumps” to new value and that doesn’t look very polished.
I like the work so far and I wish you good luck!
I’d love to see the screenshots, but the seem to have 404 errors. Eager for this progress to make it to a release!
I agree with comment #25, that configurable preferences would be useful, allowing the user to specify file types or activities to be included or excluded; to collapse inactive days; — those seem to me the most immediately desirable options.
But this has real utility — thanks.
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