n == 1 ? “Video” : “Videos”

These multicolumn views read like spreadsheets, and it’s kinda tough to get your “time-sense” without taking a few moments to read the thing.

Wouldn’t some sort of calendar view, where I can visually identify the date, be more effective as the default view?

Okay, I decided to give the code a try. This is the second time I’ve tried to play with Zeitgeist/Activity Journal. This time I actually got a GUI up

(But why should I have to ‘sudo make install’ anything? I set up a test account precisely because I didn’t want to affect my normal environment — I hope ‘sudo make uninstall’ works.)

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Could you add tooltips to the icon buttons, please? They are very pretty and clicky but I have no idea of what most of them do, particularly not the ones enabled when the “tools” button is active. Should be a very easy to change with much impact.

Oh, the “tools” button enables various filtering options (+ “Show time”).

And the buttons on the left filter according to type of file (development, music? multimedia?, something, something else, powerpoint? pdf? presentations in general? Ah, “documents”, and finally “videos”). And it somehow affects “grouping” of the files in the tiny, narrow columns. And it (or a backend of some sort) insists that the two Simpsons videos I watched 2½ weeks ago were development files

The columns easily become too narrow to present the filenames — and there’s no tooltips or widget at the bottom to show the full name of a file. Windows has a very nice solution to the too-narrow column problem: it uses a special kind of tooltip that precisely overlays the row being pointed at but breaks out of the right side of the column so it can display the full info. But that’s probably hard to implement.

A bandaid would be a quick way to switch between the 3-column and 1-column layout. There might be a hotkey for that for all I know — but I can’t find it. That should also be quick and easy to implement.

Oh, it turns out that I completely misunderstood the grouping that the bottom left buttons do. Should have read the explanation in the blog post, I guess, instead of trying the code first. Let’s just say that I don’t think it’s quite obvious yet.

The left-right buttons in the upper-left of the window: they provide navigation but by clicking instead of by scrolling. I think I’d prefer something sliderish (with markers for when there are files/activities and how many there are — it might even compress periods when nothing happens [I agree with "anon", in other words]). I don’t really want a scrollbar but a scrollbar is probably better for now than the two buttons are.

Keyboard navigation is … barely there and what’s there is broken. There might be a cheat combo for navigating back and forth in time but I couldn’t find it without reading the code. Tabbing switches between the columns (3-column view) and something else which I don’t know what it is. Up/down/PgUp/PgDn/Home/End do nothing in empty columns but moves the selection (without ever scrolling) in populated columns.

There are no accelerator keys for the “Sort by”, “Show time”, and “Search” widgets. At least the “Search” widget should have one (because it is a useful and often used widget — the others are rare enough that the mouse probably suffices). On the other hand, they should be trivial to add to “Sort by” and “Show time” (unless you are doing something very wrong) and a bit harder to add to “Search”.

It doesn’t understand Ctrl+W.

The “Search” thingy doesn’t seem to be connected to anything.

Left-clicking and double clicking on files doesn’t seem to do anything.

The activities/files I can see in the columns seem to be from when I tried to play with Zeitgeist a couple of weeks ago and gave up because one piece of the code couldn’t find another piece of the code when run and the error messages didn’t help and strace didn’t clue me in, either. Which I didn’t report because bugzilla wanted me to register first. And nobody of the many people on the IRC channel apparently read the channel… But anyway, it Gnome Activity Journal doesn’t seem to pick up on new things I do, for whatever reason.

Overall: disappointed. But Gnome Shell is nice and almost worth running all the time.

Thank you, Seif

The thing is, I’d love to have something like the Zeitgeist Vision and I don’t mind coding a bit too. It just turned out to be too raw still for me to get to the interesting UI parts.

Since you are involved in the ontology stuff (or know the guys who are), how about something I’ve been missing for years (close to a decade, actually): that things remember what URL they were downloaded from.

I have lost count of the number of times I want to give a URL to somebody else so they can download a PDF that I already have — and had to resign myself to regoogling it from scratch which can be quite hard for rare documents if there are many other “contaminating” documents with a similar wording. Try googling the draft IEEE 1364 standard (Verilog), for example.

@Seif Lotfy
Looking forward to trying it out with the scrollbarish calender thingy from the youtube

This still looks like a UI from about 1995. People hate looking through lists of stuff, so giving them three or more at a time to look through is just going the wrong way altogether.

Think about how Apple would do it, and do it that way (before they start doing it, which they’re bound to soon enough).

sparky: probably a missing sudo make install on zeitgeist (bzr branch lp:zeitgeist).

sparky11: yes, that was the reason. If you installed it with ‘sudo make install’ you should now uninstall it again (‘sudo make uninstall’) and try a new checkout. There’s now a README file that describes how to run things (with a typo in it at the end, though). Later today (it’s early morning here), even that should be unnecessary as I’ve written code to automatically have the GUI look for the zeitgeist backend if the repositories are checked out next to each other or inside each other.

@Seif Lotfy
Downloaded from would actually be more appropriate for Tracker. (We could store it, but it won’t be easy for application to understand it. Tracker can just store it as part of the file’s meta-data.)

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